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Pat's Parlour - Lyric Writing Exercises and DiscussionPat's Parlour - Lyric Writing Exercises and Discussion

I thought it would be nice if there were a place to interact on this site. From time to time, I'll start things off with an exercise. You can weigh in with your response, and comment on other responses. Have fun.

To see past exercises and responses, go to Pat's Parlour Archives

Point of View and Verse Development

Who are you talking to, and why? Without making a decision on POV, it’s sometimes difficult, if not impossible, to see how your ideas might develop from section to section -- to build your boxes so they will grow and gain weight. (See Chapter Six, Writing Better Lyrics, 2nd Edition.)

At a Toronto weekend workshop, Jim Brand, a good writer and the organizer of the workshop, asked if he could bring a song that he was stuck on to the Sunday afternoon critique session. “I don’t know where it should go next,” he said. “Sure,” I said, “Anything is fair game.”

Here’s what he brought:

When She Plays With Fire
Jim Brand

Verse 1
Troubles are gathering over my head like blackbirds on the wire
Waiting for seasons to change
Dark winged silhouette notes for an unheard choir
Washed away by cold relentless rain
Words like smoke from smoldering autumn leaves
Burn the truth from my eyes
It's no great revelation, just a lesson never learned
When she plays with fire, I'm the one who's burned

Verse 2
Breath so soft keeps me locked in the eye of the storm
A whirlwind of golden fragrant hair
......
......
Hypnotized, mesmerized, a moth to a flame
Draws me ever close and near
It's no great revelation, just a lesson never learned
When she plays with fire, I'm the one who's burned

After listening, I saw why Jim was having trouble looking ahead for the next idea. I was having trouble too. It forced me back to one of the first and most fundamental questions you can ask of a song:

Who are you talking to? And why?

Right now, in this 1st Person Narrative, you, the singer, are talking to the audience. You’re telling the audience about your relationship – how everything she does burns you. So, why are you telling them that? Because you want them to know about you and your troubles? Do you want them to pity you? Be revolted by her? And why should they care? What’s in it for them?

A 1st Person Narrative is at its most effective when there’s a reason for telling the audience the story. There’s something in it for them. Take, for example, Don Schlitz’s “The Gambler:”

Listen: The Gambler

On a warm summer’s evenin’ on a train bound for nowhere,
I met up with a gambler; we were both too tired to sleep.
So we took turns a starin’ out the window at the darkness
‘Til boredom overtook us, and he began to speak.

He said, “Son, I’ve made my life out of readin’ people’s faces,
And knowin’ what their cards were by the way they held their eyes.
So if you don’t mind my sayin’, I can see you’re out of aces.
For a taste of your whiskey I’ll give you some advice.”

So I handed him my bottle and he drank down my last swallow.
Then he bummed a cigarette and asked me for a light.
And the night got deathly quiet, and his face lost all expression.
He said, “If you’re gonna play the game, boy, ya gotta learn to play it right.

  You got to know when to hold ‘em, know when to fold ‘em,
  Know when to walk away, know when to run.
  You never count your money when you’re sittin’ at the table
  There’ll be time enough for countin’ when the dealin’s done.
 
Now ev’ry gambler knows the secret to survivin’
Is knowin’ what to throw away and knowing what to keep.
‘Cause ev’ry hand’s a winner and ev’ry hand’s a loser,
And the best you can hope for is to die in your sleep.”

So when he’d finished speakin’, he turned back towards the window,
Crushed out his cigarette and faded off to sleep.
And somewhere in the darkness the gambler, he broke even.
But in his final words I found an ace that I could keep.

  You got to know when to hold ‘em, know when to fold ‘em,
  Know when to walk away, know when to run.
  You never count your money when you’re sittin’ at the table
  There’ll be time enough for countin’ when the dealin’s done.

Pretty neat. And a big hit as a 1st Person Narrative. (Note the word “narrative.” It means “story.”) The story has a point, a lesson, a reason for telling the audience what you’ve learned – they can USE the information. Therefore, the song is about THEM, not about YOU! The audience doesn’t care about you, the singer. They want the song to relate to their lives somehow. Remember that. The song should, somehow, always be about them!

The problem Jim was facing is, if the song is 1st Person Narrative, how to make the song apply to the audience – how to make it about them. What kind of idea could come next that might be useful to the listener? Otherwise, it feels a bit like well-written whining. It’s pretty hard to see where to take the idea next. 1st Person Narrative seemed to be the reason for the blockage.

“What would happen if you were talking TO her rather than ABOUT her?” I asked. After all, this isn’t a song about FACTS. It’s more about FEELINGS. And when you’re talking about feelings, the camera should come in for a close-up. So you can see Brad Pitt’s lip quivering and his raised eyebrow. Jaws tightening with stress. 1st Person Narrative is a middle distance shot. Direct Address is a close-up.

Something like:

Troubles are gathering over my head like blackbirds on the wire
Waiting for seasons to change
Dark winged silhouette notes for an unheard choir
Washed away by cold relentless rain
Your words like smoke from smoldering autumn leaves
Burn the truth from my eyes
It's no great revelation, just a lesson never learned
When you play with fire, I'm the one who's burned

Your breath so soft keeps me locked in the eye of the storm
A whirlwind of golden fragrant hair
......
......
Hypnotized, mesmerized, a moth to a flame
Draws me ever close and ever near
It's not great revelation, just a lesson never learned
When you play with fire, I'm the one who's burned

(Note that we’ve also added “your” in lines 5 and 9.)

Hmmmm. I thought it’d have more impact. It’s close, but something still isn’t hitting home…  Aha! Take a look at the line,

When you play with fire, I'm the one who's burned

The melody gives it this emphasis:

When you play with fire, I'm the one who's burned

The 2nd Person pronoun “you” is very flexible:

First, English is the only major language on the planet that doesn’t distinguish between 2nd Person singular and 2nd Person plural. “You” could refer to an individual or a group.

Second, “you” can be a substitute for “one,” as in “You get what you pay for.” “One gets what one pays for.” “You” can even substitute for “I,” as in, “C’mon Pat, you can be clearer than this, can’t you?”

In this case,

When you play with fire, I'm the one who's burned

sounds like

When one plays with fire, I'm the one who's burned

Try this: simply say the line like you mean it, 3 or 4 time aloud, without listening, then slow it down, you’ll hear:

When you play with fire, I'm the one who's burned

Since there’s a contrast implied between “you” and “I,” the pronouns are stressed. Because “you” is stressed, it needs to go on a strong beat, on the downbeat, like this:

It's no great revelation, just a lesson never learned
When you play with fire, I'm the one who's burned

Now let’s listen to the whole thing:

Troubles are gathering over my head like blackbirds on the wire
Waiting for seasons to change
Dark winged silhouette notes for an unheard choir
Washed away by cold relentless rain
Your words like smoke from smoldering autumn leaves
Burn the truth from my eyes
It's no great revelation, just a lesson never learned
When you play with fire, I'm the one who's burned

Your breath so soft keeps me locked in the eye of the storm
A whirlwind of golden fragrant hair
......
......
Hypnotized, mesmerized, a moth to a flame
Draws me ever close and ever near
It's no great revelation, just a lesson never learned
When you play with fire, I'm the one who's burned

That’s better. Now it’s a conversation between “I” and “you.” Now we’re in a much stronger position to decide what might come next.

I’m telling you about the trouble you’re causing me, and how helpless I am to escape the damage – how attracted I am to it. So what do I say to you next? Where can this conversation go?

Now we can start thinking more clearly. Why am I teling you all this? What’s my point going to be?

Asking you to straighten out?

Asking you to treat me better?

Telling you I’m leaving?

Telling you I’ll stay no matter what?

Lots more choices, I’m sure, many more than I’ve listed, but the direction that the options lie in is clear. The scales fall from your eyes with the change from 1st Person Narrative to Direct Address.

I’ve often told my students that they should do a point of view check every time they write a song: to try all four points of view before they put the song to bed. But this example has a deeper lesson: finding the right point of view as early as you can could be crucial to understanding where the song needs to go; that figuring out your point of view can precede verse development, and indeed, in many cases, should precede setting up your boxes.

Armed with the new point of view, here’s where Jim took it:



Nice job, Jim.

Leave a comment
Point Of View Versus Developement
Lyric Writing Exercises and Discussion
Friday, Mar 22 01:05 AM
On the line Jim uses, 'When YOU play with fire, I'M the one who's burned,' I kept hearing in my head, YOU play with fire, But I'm the one who's burned.

I joined the Coursera course for songwriting taught by Pat, and I have to say, even though I have written 360 songs, and people love them, and I play festivals and venues here in Florida selling my originals, I am now critically rethinking so many of my 1st person, Direct Address, and 2nd person works. Thank you thank you thank you! One song that I wrote about 10 years ago, and have played solo and with bands with great success has now been rewritten and cleaned up using your technique of questioning, WHO'S Talking and to WHOM? Did I say thank you??? Because of your course, I am now feeling confident in going the next step and sending these songs off to publishing houses. I have a few of them on youtube but may have to break down and take them off and rework even those with this new direction! Ever, Norine Mungo
Mike Colucci
Ohio
Thursday, Mar 21 04:53 AM
I'd go for a crisper rhythmic highlight between "you" and "I." In fact, I'd change the "I" to "me," like this:

"When YOU play with fire, it's ME that gets burned."

I might even go back to the original POV just so I could say something with more impact like:

"When SHE plays with fire, it's ME that gets burned."

Or even:

"SHE plays with fire, but it's ME that gets burned."

I think the line is THAT important. ;)
Kenno
Sydney, Australia
Wednesday, Mar 20 07:25 AM
I must go back and relisten to Leonard Cohen... not sure I could always answer the question who he's singing to and why (is he so abstract?) Possibly not. I heard lots of that influence here, esp with birds on wires, nice work Jim, thanks for sharing your work
Pete Croken
Fayetteville, AR
Sunday, Mar 17 18:19 PM
I enjoyed this a lot. Excellent analysis. However, to me, it still feels off and I think it's the line length of the final line. It' too long.
When you play with fire, I'm the one who's burned.
It also seems a missed opportunity to make the lyric even more intimate. I would suggest.
When you play with fire, I get burned.
iggy
victoria bc
Sunday, Jan 6 04:18 AM
I think it makes it more powerful to take some responsibility for the outcomes and putting it in the past tense with a line like
"when we played with fire, I'm the one who burned"
Also, I think using burned in this way is more complete and dramatic
Craig Ramsay / When She Plays With Fire
Yackandandah, Victoria Australia
Tuesday, Jun 26 03:03 AM
I'm not sure the new lyrics really have the impact required but I like how a few subtle changes to words can make a big difference. Thanks for the tips about POV too.
Play with fire
Dallas
Sunday, Feb 19 17:45 PM
Why not make the hook more active and dangerous? Try singing, "Your playing with fire and I'm the one who's burned"
Shane Unber
Los Angeles, CA
Saturday, Jan 29 07:18 AM
the question I have for Pat has to do with the "universal" nature of the lyric. Like he stated, the song should engage/be about the audience, they don't care to hear someone whining. How does a song like this then, or any direct address song, cross over to apply to the audience. Is the goal to have them relate to the situation, we've all had troublesome love? Or is there some way to make this/any direct address song more universal rather than personal?

Thanks!
Mary Haller
Boston, MA
Friday, Jul 16 19:48 PM
Yes, 2nd person works better...though I wanted to get the POV earlier in the verse (line 3 or 4) to get "oriented" as a listener. And wanted get to the "fire/burn" image much earlier too.

I tend to agree with Merilyn...for me, some of the cool imagery is getting lost in the many words & syllables. "Worries gather in my head like blackbirds on a wire" feels tighter and more "accessible" to my brain, both visually and rhythmically. (Though I'd personally like to see a smoke/burn/fire image right off the bat to start setting me up for the hook.)

This reminded me of one of my fav songs, Shaun Colvin's "Shotgun Down the Avalance." Lyric feels poetic & honest lyrics w/out sounding self-indulgent.

Thanks for sharing and good luck with this one!



Don
Melbourne
Wednesday, Jul 7 13:18 PM
I disagree with Merilyn. Plenty words - yes but all needed for the picture. The many words juxtopose beautifully with the melody that only uses maybe 5 or 6 notes. I love those "off" notes he uses for the minor key both in the melody and in the chords - beautiful - they give you a sense of being in between or stuck - just what the song is about. Greta song and a little nod to Leonard Cohen with the rhyme wire/choir.
Adrian Heath
Sydney
Wednesday, Jul 7 06:56 AM
Thanks Pat,
That's very clear. Great course in Sydney last weekend.
Cheers
Adrian
Merilyn Steele
Sydney Aust
Wednesday, Jul 7 01:34 AM
I found the whole song far too wordy and not very melodic. There was no distinct chorus or melodic lift anywhere. I think he needs to simplify the whole message and say less with more. Correct me if I'm wrong!
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